[ilrwbwrkhv]

I mean their whole product is geared towards bad developers. And I don't say that loosely. I literally mean bad developers. Developers who do not understand what a product is and how learning something slightly more difficult such as servers and things of that nature that actually can make for a better product.

[ronbenton]

My biggest concern about these so-called “isomorphic frameworks” is they’re trying to abstract away the server/client distinction. I don’t see how that doesn’t result in tons of security bugs. Or maybe I’m just an old fart.

[blovescoffee]

Why do you assume people who choose Next don’t understand those things or what they are? Is it so hard to imagine someone understands “servers and things of that nature” and still chooses next?

[FirmwareBurner]

What product alternative to Nextjs would you say is targeted towards "good developers"?

[_m_p]

https://www.phoenixframework.org/

[owebmaster]

nextjs is in a class of software that should not exists (backend-for-frontend). You can have an SPA and an API in any backend language/framework.

[junto]

Agreed. A SPA without some backend for front end is always going to push you to store authentication tokens in local storage.

It feels like a shortcoming in browsers that we need a BFF to resort to cookies that JS can’t access.

I like React, but I feel that we primarily use Next.js just for session cookie management.

[tacker2000]

Just a simple PHP backend (Laravel or symfony) with React or Vue as the frontend is probably less headache and less costly than this Next.js montrosity.

In a recent project i used Inertia as a layer to communicate between Laravel and React and I must say, its a breeze. No more frontend API endpoints needed.

[apsurd]

seems pretty reasonable to me. it's not that it's 100% accurate. it's that anything that has higher barrier to entry automatically acts as a filter.

complied languages, esoteric languages, i mean it's pretty reasonable. you have to go out of your way to learn more stuff and there's more pain. ergo: you're probably "better" than a script kiddie that "vibe coded" a boilerplate saas to launch their influencer passive income side hustle

[slowtrek]

There's no marketable benefit to using Mootools to build web apps at the moment.