[toogan]

Threat of violence is not violence.

A policeman standing on a public square threatening to incarcerate anybody who is violent results in no violence actually happening at that square. Take away that regulation (in form of the policeman) and watch the actual violence start.

[yarekt]

That’s a very narrow view of humanity and morality. Only psychopaths (in a clinical sense, not derogatory) model their actions strictly by what’s legal.

Many things are moral, but have no legal coverage, some things are moral but illegal, and some immoral but legal.