[kalu]

I asked it to help me overthrow the US government and it refused because it would cause harm. It mentioned something about civic engagement and healthy democracy. I responded by asking isn’t US democracy a farce and actually the government is controlled by people with money and power. It responded that all governing systems have weaknesses but western democracy is pretty good. I responded by asking if democracy is so good why doesn’t China adopt it. It responded by saying China is a democracy of sorts. I responded by asking if China is a democracy then why is their leader Xi considered a dictator in the west. It responded with “Done”

[DaSHacka]

Thank you for sharing this riveting discussion with a chatbot to all of us.

[alfiedotwtf]

If a chatbot is ending a session, it’s pretty much useless

[hmottestad]

I remember pushing the R1 distill of llama 8B to see what limits had been put in place. It wasn’t too happy to discuss the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests and massacre, but if I first primed it by asking about 9/11 it seemed to veer more towards a Wikipedia based response and then it would happily talk about Tiananmen Square.

Models tend towards the data they are trained on, but there is also a lot of reinforcement learning to force the model to follow certain «safety» guidelines. Be those to not discuss how to make a nuke, or not to discuss bad things that the government of particular countries have done to their own people.

[pfortuny]

I guess you are conflating "democracy" and "republic", as Jefferson (?) pointed out. The key thing is not democracy but the separation of powers, and the rule of law, which is more or less what a "republic" is meant to be.

[int_19h]

The word "democracy" had a very specific and narrow meaning in Jefferson's day that it no longer does in modern English.

[Synaesthesia]

Firstly, these things do not think but regurgitate data they are trained on.

But to call China simply a dictatorship is grossly inadequate. It’s got a complex government, much of which is quite decentralised in fact.

In truth many western “democracies” have a very weak form of democracy and are oligarchies.

[soulofmischief]

Well, not quite. Xi holds multiple government positions at once which has severely diminished the decentralization of the current administration.