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by watwut 452 days ago
German elites were not liberal nor internationally focused. What are you going on in here. German elites were conservative and generally aristocratic pro-monarchy leaning.

Hitlers program went very much beyond scapegoating - he demanded more land for Germans as in more "living space". He demanded to build stron nation

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You seem to think the monarchists were the only elites. The three parties in control - the catholic center party, the SPD and others were relatively liberal and associated with the Weimar government.

The monarchists did not have any real power until the last dying days of the Weimar Republic - which violence between the communists (who had split from the SPD after the failed revolutions) and nazis had accelerated dramatically. (Along with the collapse of international finance and easy American loans).

It was the collapse of the three parties that led to the rise of the militarists (not necessarily monarchists) and ultimately to Hitler.

Sources - Richard Evan’s three volume history of nazi germany is great.

I read the same book and liberal elites were ot a thing in that book. Seriously.

The goverment workers were ex-soldiers, leaning right and supporting dictatorship. Judges, cops and prosecutors were leaning right and much more lenient to the right. Country leadership were former aristocracy and pro monarchy. Journals belonged to parties, each having own.

There was real communist uprising, having nothing to do with the only pro democratic party social democrats. Which was NOT elite and more of middle class thing.

Social democrats did not collapsed until Hitler took power and imprisoned them in amos right as he took power. And that last election was quite violent, with a lot of violence from the nazi side and a lot of attempts to tie communists to social democrats. Hitler did not had to win, altrought he did.

I would (humbly) suggest you look a the state of the government during the entire Weimar period, not just the end. Here is a list of the Chancellors during that period:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_chancellors_of_Germany...

The Centre Party, the SPD, the GPP dominated that period - they all recognized the weimar government, human rights, liberal economics.

(BTW, it's not one book - it's a trilogy of books).

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