[epoxy_sauce]

"Let's be honest"

You just want him to concede your point so you feel better. You are not being his friend. Israel is under no definition committing genocide. Please self-reflect and admit this to yourself. Alas your position is too extreme and unwilling to change.

You have terribly disingenuous rhetoric.

[octopoc]

It would be disingenuous if it weren’t for the fact that tens of thousands of innocent bystanders that Israel deemed subhuman are dead. That bloody smoking gun seems to be escaping you both.

Even if you don’t think Israel’s neighbors deserve life, you have to recognize that the entirety of western civilization and the Islamic world both see what Israel is doing as reprehensible.

Now I’m not asking you to say they’re right because they’re the vast majority (that would be subjective), what I’m asking you to agree with is that Israel needs to stop making everyone hate them, because it will be worse for Israel if everyone hates them.

That is an objective fact I hope we can agree on, regardless of the value you place on human life.