[svnt]

Parent is saying there are too many middle managers/execs and not enough engineers with agency.

[rTX5CMRXIfFG]

I don't know why anyone believes that the push for Apple Intelligence was driven by middle management. Sure, engineers could have pushed back because they knew more about the limitations of the tech, but engineers aren't one to understand the macroeconomics driving industry-wide demand and long-term growth.

[breckenedge]

> engineers aren't one to understand the macroeconomics driving industry-wide demand and long-term growth

It’s a two way street. Managers can only see the forest, but engineers are capable of seeing both the forest and the trees.

[kgwgk]

I’d be surprised to find “middle managers” at all among the top 100 senior leaders of a company with 150k+ employees,

[svnt]

Not currently, sure, but that path is typically how they get there.

[rchaud]

Or in HN parlance, "MBA management".