[francasso]

I think this THE main reason why many people are getting fed up with javascript heavy frontends and switching to technologies like htmx.

Personally I stick to json to feed data to my frontends, but I gave up on "frameworks" a while back and just implemented my own abstractions on top of vanilla js and the dom and have been happily using them for years. If you work in large teams with people that don't care so much tough, that would also have drawbacks.

[jollyllama]

Yup. The Frontend ecosystem juice isn't worth the squeeze unless you've got a full time team of software devs on your project. Better to ditch NPM etc. and go with HTMX.