[michpoch]

> I’ve had my EV for five years and the brakes are still pristine (regenerative braking saves mechanical brake wear)

What did you expect? I have original brakes with original brakepads in my 5 years old ICE van. I have original brakes (pads, rotors) in my 2016 motorhome.

> Every time I see a fossil fuel car sitting outside my son’s nursery, engine idling

Sure, so how much better do you think EVs are in that matter? 10%? 30%? The solution is to stop using individual transport, not to make it slightly better.

[cbeach]

> I have original brakes with original brakepads in my 5 years old ICE van. I have original brakes (pads, rotors) in my 2016 motorhome.

You'll probably want to get both of those checked immediately. Unless, of course, you've done trivial mileage in both vehicles. Sometimes brake wear isn't obvious - please get it checked!

> Sure, so how much better do you think EVs are in that matter?

In terms of exhaust emission outside a childcare setting, EVs are 100% better than ICE cars.

Of course, some emissions may be released by the factories building the cars, and by the mining and refinement of lithium. Perhaps if those facilities existed next to my kid's childcare I'd feel different. But the reality is that they're probably not located in densely populated areas, and it is far better to have emissions confined to one site (where it is regulated, monitored and filtered) than have billions of cars spewing fumes throughout populated areas.

[triceratops]

> The solution is to stop using individual transport, not to make it slightly better

You're saying knocking down and rebuilding millions of units of suburban housing into dense apartment buildings will emit less emissions than driving EVs?

[michpoch]

They need to be knocked out anyway because they're using fossil fuels or high amount of electricity for heating / cooling.

You change the planning rules and things change over time. We're not destroying peoples cars to replace them with EVs.

There's no tech we have currently that would work when people need to drive every day. You not only have fuel, you got tyres, you got the roads you need to maintain. Let's fix this at the core.

[triceratops]

> We're not destroying peoples cars to replace them with EVs.

Exactly. So what's the problem with switching to EVs as ICE cars wear out and die?

> You change the planning rules and things change over time.

And keep burning gasoline in ICEs until all the single-family homes are replaced with apartment buildings?

> You not only have fuel, you got tyres, you got the roads you need to maintain

Even in a world where most people take public transport, you'll need roads and tires. Buses and taxis and bicycles need roads and tires. Delivery trucks need roads and tires.