[LightBug1]

If that's true then there's absolutely no chance of me visiting the US ... possibly again!

A shame, as wanted to drive the Californian coastal roads in a year or two ... guess I'll stick to the Alps.

But let's be honest. Even I was let in, I wouldn't choose to now and ... I guess perhaps forever. Many many good people in the USA but your democracy has spoken. You want Biff in charge and no one wants to be a part of that.

[cmrdporcupine]

Come to Canada. Our pacific coastline is stunning, too.

Tofino, or Haida Gwaii.

[LightBug1]

Thanks for the heads up! Sounds great

[ihuk]

I jokingly mentioned something like that to my wife when Trump was elected. Now, given the current circumstances, I may not get another chance to visit the US. Still, I’m grateful for the time I spent in California, the people I met, and all the beautiful roads I had the chance to explore.

[macinjosh]

Forever? It's four years and the flip will flop back to the other side. Funny how the rest of the world immediately hates America when we decide we are tired of paying the largest share for the security of Europe for 80 years, or we are tired of our immigration laws being ignored, or we are tired of having our middle class jobs shipped overseas. People only like us for our money, weapons, and jobs. They want the benefits of American culture and capitalism without any of the responsibility.

Its easy to give your citizens free healthcare and college when taxpayers over in America forgo all of that to subsidize your country's security.

[piersadrian]

> when taxpayers over in America forgo all of that...

Are you really claiming that if the US stopped subsidizing security overseas, American voters and politicians would suddenly begin to support "free healthcare and college" in the US? Your claim is that it's a _budget issue_?

[choult]

Citations needed.

[macinjosh]

Refutations needed