[trompetenaccoun]

>not insert him self too much in the process of rocket science to cause catastrophe

The fact that many believe all these companies thrive despite the leadership is fascinating. I've heard this same take over and over.

One can't keep hiring the right people and make the right decisions without understanding how things work. Bezos is an extremely skilled manager yet his space company, which has actually been around longer than SpaceX as well, amounted to nothing like it. We could write it off to pure luck maybe, if Musk weren't a serial entrepreneur.

There must be some sort of psychological phenomenon explaining this irrational way of viewing his achievements. I feel like that often when people talk about Musk they aren't even talking about him but some sort of fictional character that seems to exist purely in the imagination of certain people. And it's never those who actually worked with him.

[sophacles]

I think you're being just a bit too triggered by my calling out one of his negatives - and it's delusional to think a grown man lying about his video game prowess to impress randoms isn't extremely pathetic - to see that this is an actual skill.

A common failure mode of leaders is to get too down into the trenches and insert themselves into places that would be better left alone. Even very technical leaders in an area of their expertise - they can demoralize a team by telling them to do it better and belittling them, they can be too excited and change plans too often for the boring but necessary work to get done right, they can just be over-bearing and take on a pile of work they hired others to do (to "do it right myself") and fail from the load/burnout. It's a genuine skill to not over-insert oneself.

My literal message was Elon Musk is a human, with good and bad traits - then I listed some of each.

> I feel like that often when people talk about Musk they aren't even talking about him but some sort of fictional character that seems to exist purely in the imagination of certain people.

I know this psychological phenomenon its called projection - I'm not worshiping a fictional engineering and management god called Elon Musk, so when I call out bad things he's done you take your fictionalization and assume I'm doing the same sort of thing.