[terminaltrove]

in complete agreement, with tools like fd getting more visibility!

we sponsored fd's development a while back and we occasionally sponsor terminal tool authors from time to time at Terminal Trove where we have more tools in the trove. (0)

we're currently sponsoring zellij which I encourage you to check out and sponsor! (1)

https://terminaltrove.com/ (0)

https://github.com/zellij-org/zellij (1)

[kstrauser]

Hard agree about zellij. I used screen, then tmux, for years. Zellij feels "right" for me in a way those never quite did. It's brilliant.

[aaplok]

What differences between Zellij and tmux do you see as game changers?

[kstrauser]

It's like so many other projects we're talking about here: it has sane defaults. If you start Zellij for the first time, it shows you menus to do all the things you might want. A big plus is that it supports mouse scrolling by default, and the scrolling works 100% of the time as far as I can tell.

I don't know if it can do everything that tmux or screen can do. I bet it probably can't. But it does all the things I want such a thing to do, and without needing any configuration on my part.

[aaplok]

Interesting. When I tried Zellij I found that the menus were too much in my face, compared to tmux/screen more minimal design. I see how this is a good thing when you start using it but I wonder if it gets tiring in the long run, in a clippy sort of way.

But yes it makes sense that this feature makes it superior to tmux for some users. A good case for having diversity in software.

[kstrauser]

I could see that. I use Emacs with all the toolbars etc turned off. I get it.

I’m not a hardcore tmux user. I just like having persistent sessions on remote machines and bouncing between tabs, things like that. When I want to do something beyond that, with tmux I’d have to RTFM each time. In Zellij, the menu bar lets me discover it easily.

Bottom line: you’re right. I’m glad they both exist!

[wanderingmind]

Never knew about Terminal Trove.looks like an awesome place that collects a lot of useful terminal tools. This website must be a separate HN posting.

[joshbaptiste]

Only default of Zellij I can't stand is ctrl-q exits the whole instance