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by jcranmer 460 days ago
> However, the US has long been very clear: constitutional rights only apply to citizens.

Nope, most of the constitutional rights apply to all people under the jurisdiction of the US. It's why the Bush administration set up Guantanamo--to try to evade any hint of constitutional protection, and he still failed that. (Of course, as Guantanamo also shows, the remedies available to people whose constitutional rights have been grossly violated by the government are quite lacking.)
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Aspos 460 days ago
> constitutional rights apply to all people

Not within 100 miles of the border unfortunately. https://www.aclu.org/documents/constitution-100-mile-border-...

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motorest 460 days ago
> Not within 100 miles of the border unfortunately.

Taken from your link:

> In practice, Border Patrol agents routinely ignore or misunderstand the limits of their legal authority in the course of individual stops, resulting in violations of the constitutional rights of innocent people. These problems are compounded by inadequate training for Border Patrol agents, a lack of oversight by CBP and the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, and the consistent failure of CBP to hold agents accountable for abuse. No matter what CBP officers and Border Patrol agents think, our Constitution applies throughout the United States, including within this “100-mile border zone.”

It seems that non-US citizen still have rights, but abuse is rampant within the US border patrol.

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tptacek 459 days ago
I'm waiting for 'jcranmer to respond to this, because it was a response to this claim years ago that started me following him, but, no: the "100 miles from the border constitution-free zone" thing is a myth.
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jcranmer 459 days ago
I wasn't planning on responding to this, because the sibling comment already points out that the ACLU's own explainer page is walking back its original description of it as the "Constitution-free zone".

Although while I'm here, I will note that they still don't discuss the fact that--as far as I can tell--all the regulations and laws means the 100 miles start not from the water's edge, but from the international boundary, which is 12 miles out to sea. And which also means Chicago is not in the 100 mile border zone, since the actual Canadian border is on the side of Michigan, well over 100 miles away.

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tptacek 459 days ago
That's what I remember about your comment! The extreme maritime border nerdery.
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