[goosejuice]

Then please tell us which EV people should trade their Tesla in for and which moral judgements to make. You seem to think it's easy, I'm arguing it's not.

To be painstakingly clear I'm not defending Elon and I'm definitely not suggesting that people shouldn't avoid Tesla for whatever reasons they choose. My issue is inciting vandalism, or violence, against consumers who have made their own choices in this complex web.

[CamperBob2]

I'm not in the moral arbitration business, sorry. Buy whatever car meets your needs and fits into your budget. I'm just pointing out that people who avoid buying Tesla because they don't want to feed Musk even more cash are not unjustified in their feelings. It doesn't sound like we disagree in that respect.

I don't have a good use case for EVs myself, but there was a time when I wished I did because I believed in what Tesla and Musk in general were apparently trying to do. I thought he was doing what I'd like to think I'd do in his shoes -- building cool stuff, trying to make a positive contribution to human progress, and making bank in the process. But his true agenda unfolded in a very different direction relative to one of those ideals, and for me, two out of three doesn't cut it.

(And yes, people who fuck with other peoples' cars occupy the next level down from Nazis in my personal Inferno. No argument there.)