[mike_hearn]

And yet that website doesn't use the EU as a definition of European, so it clearly doesn't matter in this case. That's what I'm getting at: the word European doesn't seem to mean anything because the people who use the word the most are relying on definitions that yield unintuitive and self-defeating outcomes, like deliberately excluding one of the countries in Europe that actually does have a bit of a tech ecosystem.

[invaliduser]

You are right on that, not including the UK in a European list (whatever the reasons) is a shame.