[donnachangstein]

> in university research labs, as a PhD student, post-doc, or professor, you manage yourself

That is not the real world.

Turns out working for your brother-in-law they let you manage yourself too.

[tensor]

Yes, it is the "real world" for research, of which industry does nearly zero. Research pushes humanity forward. The sort of anti-intellectualism in your comment is part of what is causing the decline we are seeing in society today.

[Redoubts]

> research, of which industry does nearly zero

wrong and painfully ignorant