[kristopolous]

really, just like we had a "you don't need jquery for that" we need a "you don't need react (or vue, or svelte, or whatever else you are thinking) for that."

plain, vanilla js and some decent skills will do nearly almost everything in a cleaner and more maintainable way.

after decades of maintaining other people's stuff, dumb design by smart people beats all the other combinations.

[johnecheck]

The downside, of course, is needing to code in JavaScript.

[kristopolous]

Just learn it right. I'm tired of people fighting it because they think they can learn it by intuition and then create monstrosities that are easily solved by the language they refused to understand properly in the first place.

[jasonjmcghee]

As opposed to? You can use typescript and compile too. And/or still bundle with esbuild