[MrMcCall]

Hundreds of housands of years of the human body's evolution should be respected, neh?

I like my day's first glass of water to have a half a lemon's worth of juice freshly squeezed into it.

My cold-brew (or occasionally espresso) coffee gets real maple syrup (no Log Cabin bullshit sugar-fest) and half-and-half or maybe whole milk.

Sometimes I mix yogurt into a mug of milk towards the end of the day.

That's the fullness of my liquids, except that which comes naturally with food.

[SketchySeaBeast]

I find this line of reasoning disingenuous. After all, we couldn't consume milk hundreds of thousands of years ago. Does your evolutionary heritage put you in places where hundreds of thousand of years ago you would have consumed lemons, coffee, and maple syrup? Is half-and-half natural? Is coffee? Is maple syrup? On a scale of hundreds of thousands of years all those are relatively recent.

It's a bit of straw-man, but I'm try to point out that we can't appeal to being in alignment with our evolution when even those barebone items have been refined and we wouldn't have eaten them in our prehistory.

[MrMcCall]

> After all, we couldn't consume milk hundreds of thousands of years ago.

But for the past thousands of years, I'm pretty sure my lineage could.

> you would have consumed lemons, coffee, and maple syrup?

Citris? Beans? Tree syrup?

> Is half-and-half natural?

Sure is. And so is yogurt (a Turkish word, I'll have you).

> It's a bit of straw-man

I'd call it something else, completely.

> I find this line of reasoning disingenuous.

Duly noted.

[SketchySeaBeast]

Few thousand years, OK, but not hundreds of thousands. Coffee has only been drank for less than a thousand years. They aren't just beans, they are specific beans that undergo refinement to get them to where we want them to be. Same with maple syrup - tree sap is not the same in its natural form. You're drinking a concentrated sugar.

The lines in the sand here aren't as definite as they are made out to be.

[MrMcCall]

Aspartame was definitely approved in 1974.

[cynicalpeace]

lmao lemons are for sure comparable to aspartame /s