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by ramon156 458 days ago
I don't get the public "step down" that people are taking from using Firefox. How many users are actually switching? I doubt it's much. Many are audible about it, though.

Yes browsers share your data, it's a browser... Firefox is not doing much worse than chromium browsers

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I switched on mobile and on MacOS. I intend to switch on Linux soon.

> Yes browsers share your data, it's a browser...

No, my software does not betray me. If money could buy better software, I’d spend it. Unfortunately, commercial end-user software (and SaaSS) almost always has deep ties with advertising.

I don’t mind crash reporting.

I don’t mind opt-in telemetry for QA.

There is no justification for telemetry by default, not informing of the extent, using it for advertisement, and selling your data as payment for use of software.

Companies that figured out that a steady source of ad revenue beats subscription money will always compromise their customers.

I don’t want that. And Firefox is now in the category of software that cannot be trusted until a worthy steward of a fork steps up.

In the meantime, I’m using Orion by Kagi until I have a non-WebKit alternative.

I switched. I have been on the fence for some time now, what with the pocket nagware and the various 'sponsored' features showing up in FF. Very easy for me to start using librewolf. It even seems to be faster.
the point is not that firefox is "not doing much worse than chromium browsers". the point is that they were founded upon principles of not doing that
> Yes browsers share your data, it's a browser...

That's not the problem people have with Firefox. One of the issues right now is that there are people who have intentionally opted-in to sharing "technical data" to Mozilla for the sole purpose of improving the browser, when in fact, it's not just for that but also for improving ad-tech which was never an intent those power users had in mind: https://www.quippd.com/writing/2025/03/12/mozilla-has-been-s...

I also switched from Firefox to LibreWolf, both on Linux and on macOS. I'll likely use the latest Chrome just for banking and other high security tasks, but for my normal browsing LibreWolf seems to work fine.
I switched after years of annoyances with mozilla.