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by she46BiOmUerPVj 462 days ago
Is there anything that shows "no one was allowed to use it" or was it that it wasn't an accepted standard?
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Look at Google’s documentation: they explicitly state that only their Messages app is allowed to talk to their key exchange server. The entire marketing campaign they ran about RCS was predicated on nobody reading their docs or noticing all of the Android developers begging for permission to use RCS for years.

https://www.gstatic.com/messages/papers/messages_e2ee.pdf

> E2EE is implemented in the Messages client, so both clients in a conversation must use Messages, otherwise the conversation becomes unencrypted RCS. In rare situations where the conversation starts as E2EE, then one of the clients migrates to a different RCS client or an older Messages client that does not support E2EE, Messages might be unable to detect the change immediately. If the Messages user sends a new message, it’s still E2EE, however the recipient client may render the encrypted base64 payload directly as message content.

Yes, Google only made it available for Google Messages. They don't have an SDK or API you can use to make your own clients or servers. Google also didn't put it up for standards with the GSMA or any other standards body, at least not publicly. There are no records of it.

There are some older submissions here you can probably find using one of the HN search sites about this, but IIRC those didn't really have any internal Google policy about this, they kept it all pretty private. The only 'leak' I remember about this was the thing where manufacturers that preload Google Android have to ship Google Messages to get RCS support from Google, otherwise they can't have it. Also means you can't have RCS without Play Services.

The destruction of third party apps has been totally wild.

I'm very curious how long this OS-coupled status quo is going to go on for.

It was just released in the last day or two. There had been drafts I think but now it’s real.

So someone asked Apple and they said “sure we’ll support that”.

I think the big news is that RCS can now be encrypted without relying on Google, but that’s not what gets you headlines.