[renewiltord]

Public option would lead to pure fraud like in the ABMT treatment for breast cancer. Asking for trouble. Especially in the US where people believe that no one should trade grandma for a dollar.

In the UK, they fortunately have a notion of money spent for QALYs earned (adjusted to boost life extension at end of life) but in the US everyone believes that we should spend arbitrary amounts of money on people and if we don't, we should pay their relatives extraordinary amounts to compensate for the fact that we didn't spend a few aircraft carriers worth of money on them.

Put simply, so long as US ethics remains "there is no sum of money that is too high to save an arbitrary person's life", we have to oppose the public option.

[krapht]

I'd like to see proof that Medicare does not evaluate QALY and spends unlimited money in general.

[renewiltord]

The percentage of the federal budget that is spent on dialysis and the life of the patient preceding when they're put on dialysis.

Even without that, when Cuomo in NY said he wouldn't trade grandma for a dollar, there was thunderous applause across the US. And many here argued that the economy isn't as important as any life lost. That's enough to cement it for me.