[Terretta]

> the companies training the models are stealing the content from the internet

Are you stealing a billboard when you see and remember it?

The notion that consuming the web is "stealing" needs to stop.

[llamaimperative]

The question is whether it destroys the incentive to produce the work. That is the entire point of copyright and patent law.

LLMs do indeed significantly reduce the incentive to produce original work.

[codedokode]

Are you stealing when using a pirated software to run a billion-dollar business?

[crorella]

We are not taking about billboards here, we are talking about copyrighted works, like books. If you want to do mental gymnastics and call "consuming" the web the act of downloading books without paying for them, then go ahead, but don't pretend the rest will buy your delusion.

[Terretta]

On the contrary, even telling people which billboards are posted about what, and how to get to them to look at them, is "how it works".

But the courts will get to clarify (in today's news):

https://www.reuters.com/legal/news-corp-sued-by-brave-softwa...