[savolai]

”Modern ux” can be a very political term on HN.

Yes, uxers have to balance business and user needs. That is the power dynamic of business we live in, it’s not typically the driving force of actual uxers themselves.

At the core the ethos of the human centered design (HCD) is being an advocate for the needs of actual users. Being seen as the ”enemy” on HN feels demoralizing, as a person that sits on both sides of the fence.

I feel gladness about seeing the truth of my experience about this. I would like there to be more camaraderie between uxers and developers, and of course it being a more common scenario to be able to drive a genuinely shared vision also with business leadership.

If you have a source for ”modern ux doctrine”, i’d love to hear about it to have an actual discourse.

[swesour]

> uxers have to balance business and user needs.

What does this mean? It seems that compromising the UX for a "business need" is just lazy user experience design.

[edu]

The UX designer doesn’t have absolute authority. Typically, they need approval from PMs and other stakeholders, which is where the need for compromise comes in.