[dan_quixote]

> Similar to C, but with much more help from the compiler with all sorts of things.

Is that not the problem rust was created to solve?

[kelnos]

Rust is more like C++ (though still not really) than like C. Rust is a complete re-imagination of what a systems language could be.

[phicoh]

My conclusion is that C is not a good basis for what Rust is trying to do. The kind of reliability Rust is trying to provide with almost no runtime overhead requires a much more complex language than C.

[PaulDavisThe1st]

... and C++ is a much more complex language than C.

[phicoh]

True. Though there are plenty of people advocating for some small extensions to C to make it safe.

[kqr]

Indeed. I'm still not entirely sure why Rust was created when we have Ada, but if I had to guess it's mainly because Rust has slightly more advanced tricks for safe memory management, and to some degree because Rust has curly braces.

[kragen]

Ada doesn't attempt to statically exclude data races or aliasing bugs. Rust does. I guess you're calling that "slightly more advanced tricks for safe memory management", which sounds wildly inaccurate to me; those problems aren't usually considered "memory management" at all. Rust also has better error handling, a stronger static type system, a Turing-complete compile-time macro system, and much less verbose code.

[jhbadger]

Ada use was strongly tied to the US DoD, which put some people off it, for one.