[latexr]

> Hence you believing that only including M/F as gender options is something that would greatly affect the success of an app.

That is neither what I believe nor what I wrote. You are making up that argument in your head and attacking a straw man.

If you open a restaurant which only serves spicy food and I tell you “many people won’t come here because they dislike spicy food” while giving you a list of reasons why your spices aren’t even applied correctly, that is not the same as saying “only having spicy food will greatly affect the success of your restaurant”. Rather, it is asking you to consider if you really need to limit yourself to one kind of food.

That should be obvious from my post (and apparently was for most people). My criticism was respectful and focused precisely on asking why be so adamant about something which isn’t verified, is notoriously lied about, and isn’t even relevant to the stated goal.

Perhaps look inward and consider if your own bubble is instilling in you a knee-jerk reaction to instinctively categorise the words of strangers into one-dimensional categories you must agree or disagree with, completely missing any nuance and distorting your own perception of reality.

> People like the OP from other cultures do not even understand what you are talking about.

Obviously and demonstrably false.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43320313

Please stop ascribing beliefs to and assuming ignorance in other people. That is the definition of thinking in a bubble. I urge you to reexamine your own ideals and understanding of the global world we inhabit.

[aydyn]

You're getting awfully defensive for rmild criticism of what you wrote. And now you are doing a Motte and Bailey, pulling back when pointed out its indefensible. You wrote:

> You only allow “male” and “female” which right off the bat will make many people close the website, *even if they identify with either*

We are not in a restaurant and talking about food where there are so, so many choices. We are talking about implementing drop down menu for gender lol. In context, saying that many people will outright close the app is clearly implying that you think the success of the app can be affected.

And the reason?

Because they only allow male and female. Those are your words.

> Obviously and demonstrably false.https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43320313

Demonstrating nothing of the sort lol. Central Asia still have strong gender norms. In many places they are still thinking the role of women in society is to marry and have children. The idea of NB is not even in its infancy there.

[latexr]

Clearly this conversation won’t ever lead anywhere productive. You’re surprisingly incapable of comprehending what an analogy is, separating an individual from a group (both myself and OP), or revisiting your own biases. You don’t get to tell other people what they imply or don’t, especially once they repeatedly point out your misunderstanding. Have some humility. There is no shame in admitting when you’re wrong and moving on.

For example: I was wrong to believe you were arguing in good faith and that providing more context would make us reach an understanding. I should have realised that your initial message was already an attempt to be dismissive instead of taking you at your word. Which in hindsight makes sense; if you are duplicitous in your words, you expect others to be the same. My sincere wish is that one day you are lucky enough to to understand the world isn’t black and white and not every issue requires taking a side.

[aydyn]

I see that you don't have a new argument, and instead resort to personal attacks that have nothing to do with the topic. Concession noted.