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by easytiger 459 days ago
Making statements in support of or in support of the actions of a proscribed terrorist group.
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What statements did they make in support of Hamas or their actions? Forgive me for not taking that claim at face value given that literally any pro-Palestinian speech, no matter how measured, tends to get conflated with support for terrorism and/or anti-semitism. Even something as benign as wearing a keffiyeh in solidarity, which the ADLs CEO likened to wearing a swastika.
The closest to it is that the organization he represented supported resistance "by any means, including armed resistance" immediately after 7.10.23. But AFAIU they were very careful not to mention Hamas, positively or negatively.
Is being a "Palestinian activist" that?
This argument would be stronger if either of you had sources showing what he has or categorically hasn’t done.
Hard to prove “hasn’t done.”

I’ll leave it to folks saying he has done something to prove it.

> Hard to prove “hasn’t done.”

Even a statement is fine. The point is this argument is vacuous if both sides assume intent.

> I’ll leave it to folks saying he has done something to prove it

Sure. They do that in court filings. It just takes time. (And maybe it’s all bunk!)

Statement what?

I think it is kinda an insidious system where it is expected we would have a statement vs any possible bad thing.

I’m all for innocent until proven guilty. If this guy mailed a check to hamas directly then fine by me, otherwise I say prove it.

> otherwise I say prove it

Sure. But they have no obligation to provide it to you right now. Anyone concluding confidently before we have court filings is obviously grinding an axe. (And it’s happening on both sides. No group has a monopoly on hyperbole.)

And that is enough to revoke a green card of someone married to a US citizen?
> that is enough to revoke a green card of someone married to a US citizen?

If he’s organising support for a terrorist organisation or October 17th [EDIT: 7th], yes. If he’s just voicing support for Palestinian rights, it shouldn’t be.

I would hope so
Allegedly.

The government - through the Biden and Trump admins - has been testing out the limits of student repression with pro-Palestine protestors. Think of it as a pilot program for seeing what they can get away with. As we have seen elsewhere, violent shutdown of university protests is one early step on the path towards more widespread repression.

It is fine to not care, but don’t start crying for support once your cause is on the gov’s radar.

This isn't the UK