[tw04]

If you ignore the military ambitions of China and the fact they’re openly sharing technology with Russia, perhaps.

I don’t see anything but regret for Europe several decades from now if they decide to start providing China with the technical expertise they’re currently lacking in this space.

This is all about China trying to find a way to escape the pressure of sanctions from Europe and the US.

[thomasahle]

The EU has to start working more with China, for better or worse.

Not as friends or allies, but there aren't a lot of those left anyway. It's only rational in this multi polar world to have some level of engagement with all parties.

Most of the sanctions Europe have on China were just to please the US anyway.

[Teever]

Why is it in the interest of the EU to work with an entity that doesn't condone concepts like democracy, due process, or the rule of law?

Shouldn't it be the mandate of liberal democracies to enable liberal democracies and to prevent authoritarian entities from growing power and reach?

[MaxPock]

"This is all about China trying to find a way to escape the pressure of sanctions from Europe and the US" Is this supposed to be a nefarious Chinese activity?

[bitmasher9]

I read the sentence as the US is the nefarious one, putting pressure between two groups to not work together. It’s only natural for China to act in its own self interest.

[snailmailstare]

The EU needs to build arms to defend itself that the US can't interfere with and knows less about, and so does China.

[amelius]

Didn't ARM start in Europe?

[westurner]

And RISC-V started at UC Berkeley in 2010.

RISC-V: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RISC-V

"Ask HN: How much would it cost to build a RISC CPU out of carbon?" (2024) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41153490 with nanoimprinting (which 10x's current gen nanolithography FWIU)

"Nanoimprint Lithography Aims to Take on EUV" (2025) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42575111 :

> Called nanoimprint lithography (NIL), it’s capable of patterning circuit features as small as 14 nanometers—enabling logic chips on par with Intel, AMD, and Nvidia processors now in mass production.

[znpy]

in uk, so in continental europe, yes.

[basisword]

I've always thought of 'continental Europe' as meaning 'mainland Europe'. In other words excluding the disconnected parts like the UK. Regardless, the UK is in Europe.

[palata]

I think you're right: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_Europe

[tsukikage]

It was in the EU when ARM started as well, fwiw.

[Y_Y]

The EU was established in 1993. Arm was founded in 1990.

For that matter the UK is composed of islands and parts thereof and nothing in "continental Europe", a term which refers to just the contiguous landmass. (Gibraltar is owned by the UK, but not part of it.)

Luckily Europe is not defined by the EU or sea levels, and the UK is very much in Europe the continent.

[tsukikage]

Technically true, which as we all know is the best kind of true. Note, however:

“The United Kingdom (along with the British Overseas Territory of Gibraltar) was a member state of the European Union (EU) and of its predecessor the European Communities (EC) – principally the European Economic Community (EEC) – from 1 January 1973 until 31 January 2020.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_membership_of_t...

Compare the start of this subthread: “Didn't ARM start in Europe?”

Whatever point it is that subsequent responders were trying to score by mentioning continental europe is moot: Britain was part of Europe in more ways than merely its location.

[Y_Y]

Your attention to detail is admirable. I feel like if we allow in the EEC we should also give recognition to Acorn of Acorn RISC Machines which was founded in 1978. So really OP should have asked,

"Was Acorn founded in part of a decendant of the European Coal and Steel Community, notwithstanding certain (disputed) conditions of the Treaty of Utrecht (1713)?”

[SAI_Peregrinus]

Being slightly pedantic, Gibraltar is a British Overseas Territory on continental Europe.

[dumbledoren]

The military 'ambitions' of China exist only because the military ambitions of the US exist.