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by ameister14 465 days ago
Using state violence to protect property is literally one of the main reasons for having a state at all.
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Intellectual property is not property, its a misnomer. A bluray disk is property. Do you own it or no?
>Intellectual property is not property

Look up the definition of "property". You'll find that it says nothing about it needing to be tangible. It literally just means "something that can be owned".

Then do you own your bluray or no?
You don't own the bluray you stole from your employer.
Lets say hypothetically you bought it from BestBuy. You own it or not?
You own the physical disc, but I would imagine the content is licensed.
He was stealing the discs. Those are actual property.
I am disputing the point about intellectual property.
He stole those too
False. It's to protect citizens first and personal property second. Private property is invalid and a legal construction and assumes the personhood of corporations. It's this false equivalency that gives these orgs power over us. Our legal system should prioritize actual people. Anything else is morally bankrupt. A lot of people get mad because hearing the truth hurts.
> Private property is invalid and a legal construction and assumes the personhood of corporations

Interesting claim considering that private property predates corporations by centuries.

I simply don't care. If private property was a natural right we wouldn't need it artificially supported by governments.
Like citizen rights?
No. Like intellectual property rights. I don't do gotchas. I have no obligation to be held to someone else's idea of consistency.
To protect real property. Violations of copyright should be strictly civil issues. Why are the people who arrest murderers and vandals involved in this?
they don’t really worry about murderers nor vandals
I honestly don't see why the cops should arrest someone that burgles an office building (say of a film producer) and not someone that gives away the content they paid to make for free. In what way is it different?
If I take your property you cannot have it or use it.

If I copy your content you still have it.

It's not an exigent issue that requires officers with guns to solve.

Ah, yes, that's a good argument for property definition. I agree that it seems excessive to use armed force to enforce this, I was more questioning how to differentiate the two situations in law so cops don't have to exercise that judgement.