[iseanstevens]

I still have my 2013 11.6” i7 and once I replace the battery and hinges (threw it across bed while open too many times) it’ll be good for another 10 years.

The original “MacBook” 12” retina could have been wonderful aside from the extremely poor performance, keyboard, and single USB, and battery life. Most of which Apple Silicon/lack of Jony Ive would fix.

I don’t know why, but for me about 1kg feels negligible for a laptop I carry constantly, where 1.5kg feels heavy.

[madcaptenor]

You get used to a certain weight and then a larger weight feels much larger. I remember having a 12-pound cat and thinking it was very comfortable to hold her (in my lap, not walking around). Then I had a 9-pound baby and held her a lot, and suddenly a 12-pound cat felt very heavy.

(The cat lost a bunch of weight and died, and that 9-pound baby is 50-something pounds now.)

[vrosas]

My last company _refused_ to buy me an air (what I use personally) and instead insisted on sending me their "standard" specced out 16" MBP and I _hate_ it. Flying with that thing to the offsite felt like I was smuggling a cinderblock through security.

[mrweasel]

Absolutely the same problem here. The 16" is portable, but it is not a laptop made for travel. It's to big and to heavy. You can't use it on a plane, you can't even really use it as a laptop, it needs to be supported by a table.

Traveling with that thing in my backpack is a nightmare.

[gjsman-1000]

These days I’m used to a 16” MacBook. Once or twice I’ve picked up a MacBook Air and thought it a featherweight.

[scarface_74]

> The original “MacBook” 12” retina could have been wonderful aside from the extremely poor performance, keyboard, and single USB, and battery life

“Other than that, how was the play Mrs. Lincoln”

> I still have my 2013 11.6” i7 and once I replace the battery and hinges (threw it across bed while open too many times) it’ll be good for another 10 years.

I doubt you would feel the same way if you had a M series MacBook Air.

[happymellon]

While I don't have a 2013 Mac anymore, I do have both an M3 MacBook Pro, and a Ryzen 5 Lenovo for development work with different clients and I really don't find the Mac that much faster in day to day usage.

Sure in benchmarks it gets bigger numbers, but in normal usage it's negligible. That's probably more due to MacOS getting less efficient than anything else though.

[scarface_74]

It’s not about raw speed. If you want raw speed, you will be better off getting an x86 desktop or laptop. Except of course where the unified memory/GPU comes into play where an M1 Mac will win.

The benefit of the Mx Macs are the combination of speed, quietness, battery life and lack of heat.

[happymellon]

> It’s not about raw speed

> The benefit of the Mx Macs are the combination of speed

Which I've stated is generally not that obvious to me. My compiling, and running of tests isn't massively different between machines.

> quietness... and lack of heat.

I can't think of a laptop I've had except the 2019 MacBook Pros that were so noisy and unnecessarily hot. It is a marked improvement over that, but that was a particularly low point in laptops.

> battery life

I'm sure it's really important for some folks to get more than 8 hours battery, and there's always someone here talking up their productive 15 hours flights, but I honestly don't get that much advantage from it, or have met someone who has. Definitely not enough to warrant more than £200 over the Thinkpad.

[scarface_74]

Unnecessarily hot? All x86 laptops are some combination of unnecessarily hot, underpowered or loud because of fan noise. It’s just the nature of x86 and a trade off you have to make

And you have never met anyone that thinks battery life is a big deal for a portable battery powered device?

[rock_artist]

The MacBook 12" with an M1 or M4 would've been amazing by today. Still lovely form factor.

[mrweasel]

Isn't that basically the new Air, minus the ports?

[macNchz]

They're very similar, but handling both together my old 2016 12" is just slightly smaller and lighter in a way that is really appealing compared to my 2020 13" M1 Air. It's 350g lighter, which makes more of a difference than I would have guessed when throwing it in a bag.

[tosh]

the current macbook air is 1240 gram

the 12" macbook was 920 gram

[goosedragons]

There's similar weighing laptops out there. The LG Gram line for example, some of the ThinkPad X series.