[beveldropshadow]

Why fly to Washington then? Why tweet that he intended to sign?

Your rape analogy is backwards. Two men ganged up on someone and you want to claim a grimace as a smile.

"Even an artist can clearly see" is extremely ironic.

[ty6853]

I hope the families of the dead ask Zelensky these important questions. My conjecture is he was unwilling to take an ego bruise for the sake of his country.

[dralley]

His approval rating went up afterwards. He's representing his country.

Ukrainians have a very bad history with "politicians that bend the knee when the screws are turned on them".

There's only so much lying you should expect the Ukrainians to sit there and take. Trump going on and on about how much Putin wants peace in front of him is just fucking absurd.

[ty6853]

Polls are weird. In 2016, the polls strongly suggested Trump would not win.

Ukraine is a war zone under martial law. Informal ratings are likely even less reliable than in more stable place.

Properly administered democratic elections can capture approval. But those were canceled in Ukraine (constitutionally) due to the war and martial law. Their most reliable capture of approval, was canceled!

[graeme]

The 2016 polling margin was off by about 2%. Mattered immensely for who won, but it's a myth that the polls were massively wrong about public opinion. They were highly accurate!

[dralley]

>Polls are weird. In 2016, the polls strongly suggested Trump would not win.

None of the polling suggested that. They suggested Clinton had a 2-3 point popular vote lead. She did in fact have a 2-3 point popular vote lead. It's not the polling's fault that it's measuring something that the US doesn't actually use to select the President.

Outlets that did take state polls into consideration and tried to simulate the electoral vote, namely 538, gave Trump a basically 1/3 chance to win.