[hinkley]

Atlassian is nothing if not consistently mediocre at integrating their purchased properties into each other.

And they still haven’t finished making deployments have feature parity with builds in Bamboo.

I made it partway through the interview process at a startup a couple weeks ago and realized I didn’t have a good answer if they asked my advice for what to use for project management, if not Atlassian. Which was fairly likely given the company maturity and the position. I’m still trying to find that answer.

Aside from GitHub I only have one other answer and it starts with, “this is going to sound crazy but hear me out.”

[burningChrome]

>> Atlassian is nothing if not consistently mediocre at integrating their purchased properties into each other.

I can't think of any company off the top of my head that has acquired a company and successfully integrated their tech stack into their own product offering. I work for a huge health care company whose stated goals are to grow through acquisition and in the 5 years I've been here, none of the painfully long process of integrating another companies tech has gone well - at all.

If anybody has any good examples of this happening, I would love to read about them.

[jamesfinlayson]

A company I worked at acquired a competing company for their customer base before I started. I believe there was integration of a pricing service into the newly acquired business' system as well as point of sale system updates that could talk to both backends, but there was strong motivation here to have uninterrupted service and to keep costs low. Before too long the acquired company's systems were phased out and all customers were migrated to the new systems.

[tim--]

Apple with TestFlight (Burstly) comes to mind.

[jamesfinlayson]

Facebook with Instagram seems to work okay too from my limited interactions with both. No idea if it's held together by spit and duct-tape though.

[throw16180339]

Cisco Systems has had numerous successful acquisitions with integrated product lines.

[no_wizard]

There's Linear, there's GitHub / Gitlab issues and projects, there's Asana (has all the features, simply called different things in many cases)

Once you start to see Jira as 'central repository for realizing work streams' the options become easier to assess.

The place where Jira does sem to excel is automations, but I think thats simply due to maturity and alot of platforms cover most common ground

[HereBeBeasties]

Fibery is the answer. It's absolutely great: https://fibery.io/

[javawizard]

> Aside from GitHub I only have one other answer and it starts with, “this is going to sound crazy but hear me out.”

Do tell...

[hinkley]

Someone years ago “foisted” Trac on us. This is before CI/CD had reached the status of a default behavior.

I thought it was going to be a shitshow but it turned out to hit the Pareto Front for project management, especially if you were doing Kanban. It’s one of the first tools that auto-linked between wiki, tickets, commits and commit messages. You could put ticket numbers and Wikiwords into your commit messages and it just worked.

I’m trying to design a Trac but with CI now, but I’m working on a personal time management app instead, because I don’t build panipticons, so those features need to live where management cannot see.

[datadrivenangel]

What's the answer? Excel?

[devmor]

I'm a fan of whiteboard and sticky notes!

Distributed scaling is a little difficult, you have to set up a webcam and hire an intern to move things around, but it's probably still cheaper than a lot of enterprise solutions.

[CobaltFire]

I legitimately used this method (updated three times a day) via a photo posted to a spot on sharepoint in the military.

People LOVED it. Worked amazingly well, was easy to hand off if I was out, etc.

[lytfyre]

On an old team that did this, we joked that the cleaning staff had as much control of the roadmap as the product managers. The cheap offbrand sticky notes didn't stick very well, so after one or two status changes, or just being on the wall for a while, they tended to fall to the floor. If we were lucky they'd get stuck somewhere at random, and not just thrown out.

[progmetaldev]

This is honestly a solid solution, and one that actually feels more "connected" with your coworkers than a website without dark mode, to determine your current sprints or whatever methodology you use.