[attendant3446]

I will be buying a new laptop soon and have been researching this topic recently. I agree that MacBook is not a great option as a dev machine (great laptop, just not for devs, pretty much just because of that ridiculous OS).

Since I'm in the EU, I ended up with 2 possible options: ThinkPad T14 (non-s model), Gen.5 or newer. Or Framework 13 AMD.

System76 also make some interesting laptops, but it's just too expensive to get one in Europe.

[mariusor]

In Europe you can have a look at Tuxedo computers. They have some sweet configurations with the previous AMD CPU generation for reasonable prices. Full disclosure however, I had one of their Pulse 13 laptops (2 generation ago I think), on which I had to change the battery once every 2 years, and recently the screen started to behave like it's on its last legs. (After about 4 years)

[attendant3446]

I know about Tuxedo but they have not been up-to-date for a long time. I checked their website and I can finally see the improvement in their newer laptops. But for a long time there were no laptops with USB 4 (e.g. Thunderbolt), only ISO keyboard layouts (bleh) and many other obvious and annoying drawbacks.

Also, Tuxedo still feels like brand of white label products. I know System76 is sort of the same, but somehow their products feel like products. But maybe it's just the marketing.

[pestaa]

I've seen ANSI layout being available on many Tuxedo models. I got my Aura 15 with it 4 years ago.

[attendant3446]

I know it was available on some models, but many? I doubt it. The last time I checked what was available from Tuxedo (maybe 1.5-2 years ago), the 2-3 models I liked didn't have an ANSI keyboard layout option.

[mariusor]

Yeah, I can understand what you mean, when I bought mine they didn't really have screens larger than 1080p. Luckily that didn't matter for me at the time.

I wanted to support them again, but I chose the new framework in the end. We'll see if it's going to be better.