[regularfry]

> no civilized country executes criminals, but in fact several developed democratic countries in Asia do, and to say they aren't civilized seems absurd.

If you're saying the first bit, you're saying that it's a disqualifier from the second.

[lupusreal]

And I'm saying that anybody who claims Japan, South Korea or even Singapore isn't civilized is being absurd. Their own country is almost certainly more dangerous than those, there are very few countries with lower intentional homicide rates than those three.

[alpaca128]

The US have the death penalty too, so implying that those countries have a low homicide rate because of it is quite far-fetched.

Not to mention at least in the US the death penalty is more expensive than a lifelong prison sentence, so it's simply not a good idea.