[skinkestek]

> And how often has the latter actually happened?

Exact amount of times it happen doesn't matter as much as the fact that one side tries to pretend it isn't a problem.

> there is no 100% foolproof system that allows for no cheating like the anti-migrant crowd tends to suggest. No matter what there will always be a certain percentage of fraud in any system.

That is not what I am suggesting.

And I think you are actually proving my point here.

[mschuster91]

> Exact amount of times it happen doesn't matter as much as the fact that one side tries to pretend it isn't a problem.

I'm not saying it is not a problem at all - I am simply saying that it is a nothingburger compared to the amount of "ordinary" rape and violence going on in prisons. Trying to blast on trans people while ignoring the much larger elephant in the room is dishonest and reminds me of a Bible quote: "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?" [1]

[1] https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%207%3A3...

[skinkestek]

I guess this is what is called the strawman argument?

Pretending I only care about one thing and then pointing out that it is stupid to only care about one thing?

[lcnPylGDnU4H9OF]

> one side tries to pretend it isn't a problem

It's referred to as a "strawman argument" because it's like arguing with a person made out of straw (evoking images of a person fighting against a straw man for training); such a person is not a difficult opponent and one is not required to put in effort for a fight against them. One might consider who you are arguing against when you say "one side tries to pretend it isn't a problem".

[skinkestek]

Exactly.