[kkarpkkarp]

Signal comes from the country where the Prism [1] is still functioning. While it has open source, NSA can request from deployers on any stage to inject surveillance functionality: request from Signal authors, from Android / Apple Store repository maintainers and probably many other actors on the deployment chain to my mobile phone.

I could install it from sources but I do not have any guarantee my message sent to my friend is not eye-picked by PRISM on his phone.

Open-source + marketing copy != final product

Just a regular reminder, guys.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM

[kreetx]

I wonder why can't we have a fully open source e2ee that would be easy to use?

[SSLy]

> I wonder why can't we have a fully open source e2ee that would be easy to use?

what would you say about simplex's UX? https://simplex.chat/docs/guide/readme.html

[Aloisius]

Signal is fully open source.

[fsflover]

Matrix is getting there.

[workfromspace]

I keep hearing about Matrix (protocol) for a long time now.

Wikipedia says [0] it was started 10 years ago. I wonder what's the hold up?

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_(protocol)

[fsflover]

I'm already using to to chat with my friends and family. The basic features are sufficiently polished IMHO.