[brulard]

What do you mean by "no return"?

[whythre]

We aren’t an agrarian society so children (and the labor they represent on the farm) are not a financial asset, they are a financial liability.

[brulard]

But couldn't they be considered an investment? For possible support (emotional, financial and other) in old age.

[rnd0]

In practice? Very much no.

[brulard]

I strongly disagree. Around me I see a huge difference in old people without kids vs. with kids in how they are being taken care of.