[sras-me]

>The biggest disagreement was started by Zelensky politely correcting Trump on a fact.

Which fact was this? That diplomacy will not work? Then why did he choose to come to sign the deal? Don't you think it to be dishonest and disrespectable to have an agreement, and when the other party believes it and provides them an audience, do a U turn and start arguing about stuff in public? I am not saying that they shouldn't argue. But that should have been before making the agreement and coming to the Oval office.

>I don't care if they were pissed, they need to act like fucking statesmen!

Ha! I think a statesman is supposed to have some amount of maturity and wisdom. And if a person have those things in an average quantity, they will know NOT to utter things that wouldn't advance their cause. And they will know what those things are. What this president have shown here is the utter lack of both, because those words spoken out of emotion, not only did not advance their cause, but have put them in a much worse position.

[watwut]

That Russia does not keep agreements and did not kept agreements in the past. Likencomon, this is not opinion difference, but fact. Likewise you spread lies about how war started and how, President have to respond.

Correcting and responding in public is normal in politics, business ... except in Russia, North Korea and China communist party.

And these were NOT relitigations, he came to sign. Just a facts about world

[sras-me]

>That Russia does not keep agreements and did not kept agreements in the past.

Yea, so why did this president bother to come to the oval office for if he is so convinced that negotiations will not work?

>Correcting and responding in public is normal in politics, business

Sure, but there is a time and place to do that. Even a budding politician will know that. This president didn't know for some reason.

[torified]

It's interesting that you recognize that the oval office is where you go to make an agreement with Russia.

[scotty79]

> And if a person have those things in an average quantity, they will know NOT to utter things that wouldn't advance their cause.

After that exchange Zelensky got full, energetic and unified support of the whole Europe and full support of his own people across political spectrum. And he sacrificed nothing because trump was openly signalling for a month that support of USA is already lost. The only cause that was not advanced was USA's.

USA mostly lost defense market in Western countries. What's a Patriot battery good for if US is going to suddenly and surprisingly align with your enemy and stop selling you the rockets for it?

Trump's temper tantrum intentionally triggered by Vance coached by backseat billionaires who put him where he is gave Zelensky everything he could realistically hope for from this meeting.