[gjsman-1000]

System76 laptops are rebranded Clevo devices (a Taiwanese white-label ODM). Even by non-Mac laptop standards, they are known for subpar build quality, reliability, and battery life.

I would pick a Framework over a Clevo, any day. And Framework has tons of paper cut issues - I’m not leaving my MacBook for high security work with Framework’s track record for firmware updates.

[ofcourse2025]

My lemur easily runs ollama, huggingface locally. No problems. Long battery life. Really thin. Rarely reboot. I don't have anything bad to say about it.

[OutOfHere]

The hardware just isn't reliable, and the support doesn't have an SLA. I have multiple System76 laptops that don't work anymore, and I don't know what to do with them.

[spookie]

I have a clevo, it is still in one piece and runs. Then I bought a msi. That one went bananas on suspend once and melted itself.

Clevos ain't bad really.

[stmw]

Really? I had no ideal System76 was a rebrand..

[hoistbypetard]

It's a little more than a "rebrand". Here's a more nuanced explanation:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17040293