[gatienboquet]

They use their own M chips for IA. They are far more advanced on AI than the majority of company.

They are using OpenAI for now but in couple months they will own the full chain of value.

[seec]

They were more "advanced" with the Siri release also, yet today it is barely competitive with the other assistant.

Apple is very good at marketing, a lot less at delivering actual value, especially if it's not about hardware.

[behnamoh]

we’ve heard that claim for the past three years, but every effort by them points to the opposite. don’t get me wrong, I would love for Apple Intelligence to be smart enough on my iPhone and on my Mac, but honestly, the current version is a complete disappointment.

[DrBenCarson]

Apple are working on the hard problems of making AI useful (call them “agents”), not AGI

1. Small models running locally with well-established tool interfaces (“app intents”)

2. Large models running in a bespoke cloud that can securely and quickly load all relevant tokens from a device before running inference

No AI lab is even close to what Apple is trying to deliver in the next ~12 months

[behnamoh]

if that were the case, then it would definitely help Apple Intelligence if the iPhone and Mac had higher amounts of RAM, but the base MacBook Pro announced by Apple a while ago had 8 GB of RAM and even the pro versions of the iPhone have 8GB whereas 12, 16, or even higher RAM is very common in android devices which helps users run relatively large language models on their devices

[DrBenCarson]

All iPhone SoCs made after ChatGPT launched start with 8gb, and all Mac SoCs start with 16hlgb

[behnamoh]

that's just not true:

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/apple-macbook-pro-14-laptop-m3-...