[NicoJuicy]

Threatening to annex Greenland ( Denmark)

Threatening to annex Canada and start a trade war to try to compulse them. Invoking Canadian nationalism instead. Note: he arranged the previous "trade deal" he claims to hate now.

Starting a trade war with Mexico, this is actually a source of Fentanyl and I can understand.

Camerading with dictators ( Russia), voting the same as them in the UN. Claiming Russia isn't the aggressor ( wtf), even China didn't agree with it.

Threatening a country being attacked and bullying it's president. Taking advantage of the situation to bully them for resource extraction.

Threatening Europe and stability in Europe:

Threatening Germany and interfering publicly with it's elections.

Threatening the UK and interfering publicly with it's elections

Disrespecting NATO and it's citizens who have died when US invoked article 5 on 9/11

US is getting more and more hate from literally everywhere in a very short time because of Trump. A lot is changing very quickly and it won't take 4 years until Trump is gone. We're 6 weeks in...

The entire world is pretty sure that Trump & Vance will take the US in a dictatorship. A lot of this is smoke and mirrors to keep everyone distracted and busy in the mean time ( personal opinion)

Pointer: just look at Tesla in Europe. Some countries are reporting a 45% drop in Tesla sales while the EV market expanded 40%...

Eg. Tesla sales dropped 70% in Canada in January. 81 % in Australia, 60% in Germany, ...

When people will stop US subscriptions ( eg. Netflix) and it's becoming noticable ( eg. Stocks). That will be a point of no return (eg. I think it's already going to be visible from Canada).

[NicoJuicy]

6 hours later:

- re-iterated threats about Greenland ( one way or another we'll get it)

- tarrifs India

- tarrifs South Korea

- tarrifs China ( that one I get)

- Seize Panama canal ( forgot that)

- threatening US students and schools for protesting

- removing a black congressmen from Trump's speech

- banned intelligence sharing to Ukraine

Ho boy, at this rate. No one will be left from US allies within months.

[buzzert]

You should consider getting a hobby.

[NicoJuicy]

Which one is wrong?

( Then it goes quiet )

[NicoJuicy]

Add Japan to the list regarding currencies

[NicoJuicy]

Add Moldova

[grepexdev]

> US is getting more and more hate from literally everywhere in a very short time because of that. A lot is changing very quick and it won't take 4 years until Trump is gone. > The entire world is pretty sure that Trump will take the US in a dictatorship and is going to loosen ties.

Do you have a source for this or is it just some vibey rant? That last part seems ridiculous.

[arbitrary_name]

What seems ridiculous about it? Aggressive expansion of presidential power. A compliant judiciary that just handed the president immunity while in office. Constant comments about not having elections 'next time around'. Erosion of first amendment rights. Concentrated media ownership. Constant outright lies while in office.

He is giving many good reasons to be anxious or concerned. Are these normal behaviors? Is his conduct likely to weaken our institutions, rather then strengthen them?

[the_clarence]

All of Europe hates the US now. Same with Canada. Just ask any of your foreign friends

[fasbiner]

The lack of self-awareness and celebratory exclusion of most of humanity from this assertion is deeply concerning.

Is there a reason that you consider people in vietnam, indonesia, the philippines, slovakia, mali, and dozens of other countries that are recent/ongoing victims of the rapacious and ultra-violent "good europeans" or the liberal-imperial US in recent ( < 100 years ago) history to be either:

A) Not part of the world (since you're explaining the GP statement about the world)

B) Or are somehow a self-evidently inferior subspecies for whom you assume it is impossible for people on HN to be friends with?

If you use "all the people in the world" and "a handful of majority-white former or current imperial-colonial powers" interchangeably, I don't see how anyone can assume in good faith that you're not carrying water for a set of very unpleasant european ideas used to rationalize dehumanization.

[Swenrekcah]

I don’t believe the person you responded to was talking about people outside Europe, since they specifically mentioned Europe.

Is there a reason you are getting offended on behalf of other people that weren’t mentioned?

[fasbiner]

Look at the entire thread and notice my comment explicitly referenced the GP comment and the prior dialogue. This can be expressed as a set of logical axioms, and I hope that you are simply bad at reading comprehension.

1. "Everyone on earth hates X now"

2. "Well, not the whole world, that's not a serious claim"

3. "My evidence that it is indeed true that everyone on earth hates X is that a majority of white western europeans hate X, as will all of your non-american friends, all of them."

4. "Equating a majority of white western europeans as evidence of the feelings of all people on earth is implicitly exclusionary and illogical."

5. "I'm going to ignore the original claims being discussed and their context even though there are literally nested comments to show associated thoughts and doing so violates the basics of reading comprehension."

So that should catch you up. Again, I'd like to assume good faith but "pretending top level comments don't exist or inform subsequent comments" indicates some kind of learning disability or lack of socialization.

[NicoJuicy]

You're 5 point comment is entirely based on the claim that someone included the entire world for hating the US ( well, Trump)

Which is ridiculous because that's not even what was said.

As we said, go check up on your non American friends to see what the world outside of the US thinks about Trump and his threats.

[seanmcdirmid]

Russia is a part of Europe and loves the US (or at least Trump) right now.

[NicoJuicy]

Well, you got me there

[NicoJuicy]

I work for an international company, we talk.

Check your own resources / circle. It's pretty easy to verify.

Ps. Don't argue against the dictator https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/c0q184n7qnjo

Many don't seem to realize that removing bureaucracy and installing loyalists is exactly how a dictator becomes a dictator

And that's exactly what Trump is doing.

Eg. 6 january, it's really not that hard to see that Trump wants to cling to power and just earn an insane amount of money ( Trump coin, Melaniacoin, ... ), ignoring court orders, ... ( It's project 2025 and happening for weeks)

Claiming to have won the previous elections, with no proof

Do you have any proof that he isn't? Everything seems to support my opinion that Trump wants to be a dictator. He literally said so himself.

"I'll be a dictator for one day", we're currently 6 weeks in.

[grepexdev]

My concern about checking my own circle is that it is an inherently biased approach. I'll add that I'm not the biggest Trump fan. In fact, according to the political compass tool (take with a grain of salt, I guess) I'm quite liberal. If I go to a liberal circle, of course they're going to confirm this rhetoric that Trump is going to take the US in a dictatorship.

Al Green was being disruptive and frankly let his emotions get the best of him. There were even democrats who voted in favor of his censure.

Your point about removing bureaucracy and installing loyalists is solid. Though, to say it is exactly how a dictator becomes a dictator is of course an oversimplification. There's more to it than just that.

Also, keep in mind that this is happening within a democratic framework. Removing bureaucracy and installing loyalists can be done in pursuit of objectives other than obtaining dictatorial power:

- Margaret Thatcher in the UK reduced government size through privatizations and appointed conservative loyalists to implement her policies, operating within democracy and stepping down after her term.

- Nelson Mandela in South Africa transformed the bureaucracy from apartheid to a democratic system, installing officials loyal to the new democratic vision, and served two terms before stepping down.

- Ronald Reagan in the US cut regulations and appointed conservative officials to support his economic policies, also within democratic bounds.

In all of these, removing bureaucracy and installing loyalists was framed as efforts to enhance efficiency or fight corruption, not to consolidate absolute power.

Now, Trump is no Nelson Mandela. On the flip side, he is no Adolf Hitler.

There is a lot of alarmist rhetoric going around (such as "Trump will take the US in a dictatorship") that I think will prevent people from seeing what is actually happening (be it good or bad).

That is my attempt at being rational while being bombarded with propaganda from both left and right.

[xdennis]

He has "joked" numerous times about his third term. It looks like he's preparing the ground for a Putin-style forever presidency.

[simonh]

He said publicly during the election that if he won “you won’t have to vote anymore” several times, including on a Fox interview.

During protests in his first presidency in 2020 he asked his security advisors “Can’t you just shoot them, just shoot them in the legs or something?”

Combined with his persistent attempts to overturn the result when he lost to Biden, and retribution against Repubican election officials that certified Biden wins, and I’m frankly confused what isn’t clear about what’s going on.