[aw4y]

The problem with nuclear in Italy is just one: how many time have you read about a public bridge fallen because of bad construction? Same for roads, houses and so on. Most of the time the reason is the company building those, trying to spend less in materials and avoiding regulations - something unfortunately not so unusual in Italy.

So imagine what could happen with a nuclear plant... (nuclear is safe, building in Italy is often not)

[Mashimo]

> The problem with nuclear in Italy is just one:

Remember when Italy paid the mafia to get rid of nuclear waste, they put it on old boats and sunk them :D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxic_waste_dumping_by_the_%27...

[JumpinJack_Cash]

Water is the best insulant for radiation.

Apparently even mafias bosses know that famous cartoon where it says that you could swim in the exhaust nuclear bars cooling pool

[echoangle]

You would hope that the containment is sealed for this though, releasing the material into the water still isn't ideal.

[torginus]

National stereotypes...

Italy's the 3rd largest economy in the EU, and 8th in the world, with an advanced technology sector to boot.

And if they somehow cannot figure it out, their French neighbors most assuredly can.

[pjmlp]

As Portuguese, and regarding how things work there, regardless of whatever achievements get acomplished, the ways how to do business and handle bureaucracy walls aren't very far from stereotypes, even if it was improved during the last decades.

I assume same applies in Italy, given that we share some of those stereotypes.

[regularjack]

I'm portuguese and I completely disagree with this. Stereotypes are just stereotypes, generalizing 10M people into a dumbed down pseudo reality doesn't make sense.

[pjmlp]

Then I can tell you that the favours culture is as actual as ever, maybe we hang around in different parts of the country.

Additionally, one just has to watch the news to see how it works, especially among our beloved politicians and major economical groups, should I list them here for our foreign friends?

Or are you going to say it is all fake news?

[lillecarl]

It makes less sense the further from the stereotypical thing you go.

It's nuclear, not burning clothes or giving your uncle the building contract.

[aw4y]

not exactly a stereotype, just facts.

for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponte_Morandi_collapse

and also check what happens (now more than ever) everytime there's a big rain in a lot of italian places. I'm very concerned about this.

[Recursing]

Bridge failures regularly happen in many countries, including France and South Korea: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bridge_failures#2000%E...

[SecretDreams]

If you're worried about this, you should probably avoid flying in America.

[Idesmi]

I am Italian and currently live in Italy, and don't trust my government with building nuclear plants.

As long as the people in power are famous for lying and twisting reality, we should not touch nuclear.

[braiamp]

Would you welcome your comrades Russian when they roll over your country? No? Then deterrent is the only option.

[kranke155]

France has never had a major nuclear accident. The biggest issue is of course, earthquakes in Italy.

[stop50]

They had luck, depending how hot this summer gets some nuclear facilities have to shut down again because the water gets to warm or they don't have enough water in the cooling water source.

[acatton]

The low river issue 2 or 3 summers ago was overblown. When there is not enough water, the production can be slowed down to use less water.

Regarding what happened during that heatwave, there are, rightfully so, regulations on how hot the water can be to be dumped into regular rivers. These regulations ensure the protection of the marine life and ecosystem of these rivers. During the that summer, the rivers' natural temperature was almost as hot as the threshold set by these regulations, so they could not dump any hot water into the rivers. But there are add-ons solutions to this in the future, such as cooling ponds where they would let water temperature dissipate before dumping it into the rivers.

[kranke155]

You're saying the media lied to me? For a political point?

[barrkel]

I've generally been impressed with engineering works in northern Italy, the tolled autostrada in the mountains etc.

[amarcheschi]

As far as I know - which is definitely not that much - there are literally 3rd world countries operating nuclear power plants without accidents. It might have to do with iaea supervision as well, but I don't know what they do irl so I won't comment on that

[IlPeach]

I'm sorry, did you forget "mafia"?

[aw4y]

I didn't. that's implied in "avoiding regulations".