[kelipso]

Problem with this is a misunderstanding of what a press conference after a private discussion is supposed to be about. Zelensky was trying to negotiate and argue during the press conference, with the entire world watching. All the details about Trump not wanting security guarantees would presumably have been decided during the private meeting but Zelensky basically tried to argue his case with the media. That would irritate pretty much anyone.

[sjsdaiuasgdia]

Irritating bullies is not a bad thing.

[kelipso]

Well, the US stopped Ukraine funding because of it, so seems it was a bad thing for them.

[sjsdaiuasgdia]

Yes, because the bullies (Trump, Musk) have allied with the bully (Putin).

Zelensky correctly recognizes that appeasing bullies does not make the bullying stop. At best, it slightly delays the bullying.

Much of the US population desperately needs to reach the same recognition.

[kelipso]

We collectively need to stop framing geopolitics in high school terms. It's embarrassing.

[immibis]

Finding the truth embarrassing doesn't make it not the truth. Geopolitics is basically high school bullying.