[stuffoverflow]

Ukraine has retained its independence. That's a big achievement on its own.

[rurban]

Not under these circumstances, inviting Russia to try again capturing Kyev.

Also NATO is dead now. So why should they stop at the Ukranian border.

[jesterson]

lol, the country is in shambles, it's completely dependent on external financing and military assistance, let alone

If you call that independence, I wouldn't want one for my country.

[AlecSchueler]

What state would it have been in wit assistance? Would you be happy with that situation in your country?

[ty6853]

If they are independent then they won't need to rely on being propped up by American taxpayers to survive. Because if they did, they'd be dependent not independent.

[bwb]

With that logic, any country too small to fight its neighbors should be taken over, their citizens killed, their women defiled. What planet are you from?

Would you like to live in a world where the strong can do anything they want? Or do you want to live in a world of laws, where alliances protect groups of countries who want to provide their citizens with safety, economic prosperity, etc.