[AlphaSite]

I don't think this is exhaustive and things have expanded since this was published, but this[1] somewhat covers this

> CDC webpages currently note that the "CDC's website is being modified to comply with President Trump's Executive Orders." Specifically, the CDC has been purging its website of topics related to diversity, gender identity, and LGBTQ issues. In addition, CDC researchers have been ordered to retract papers submitted to journals that use words or phrases like non-binary, transgender, LGBT, pregnant people, and more.

Ive heard HIV and contraception related information was also removed [2].

> Among the many pages that remain down are Health Disparities Among LQBTQ Youth, Interim Clinical Considerations for Use of Vaccine for Mpox Prevention, and Fast Facts: HIV and Transgender People.

Other government sites [3] had similar purges for different topics:

> The Northeast Organic Farming Association of New York alleges the agency illegally scrapped essential webpages without public notice last month, after USDA Director of Digital Communications Peter Rhee ordered staff to archive or publish “any landing pages focused on climate change.”

[1] https://www.medpagetoday.com/obgyn/generalobgyn/114078

[2] https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/public-health/removal-pages-cdc-w...

[3] https://news.bloomberglaw.com/environment-and-energy/climate...

[unification_fan]

> pregnant people

I'm usually not a bigot but that one is dumb

[steego]

Let's find out if you're a bigot or not. I'll throw up Webster's definition for reference.

Bigot – a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices.

The capacity for pregnancy is not confined to individuals with a female (46,XX) chromosomal pattern. The real world is complicated, and intersex people can be born with a (46,XY) karyotype or mixed (46,XX) and (46,XY) karyotypes as a result of chimerism. People with Swyer syndrome (46,XY) develop female reproductive anatomy (a uterus and fallopian tubes) but do not produce eggs. However, pregnancy can be achieved with donor eggs and assisted reproductive technology.

So here's the question: Are you devoted to your first opinion, or are you capable of acknowledging that the medical community may have had legitimate reasons, grounded in actual biology, to choose a more inclusive word?

[Vuska]

Sex is defined by which gametes are produced, not chromosomes.

[defrost]

What of the people that are born who don't produce gametes?

( For example, no gametes are produced in 85% of individuals with streak gonads )

The whole human sex | gender thing seems superficially clearcut but the real world edge cases are messy AF.

The aspect I personally find confusing is that the exceptions are relatively rare .. human births are straighforward enough for 98% of births, and of the 2% that pose a challenge the really curvy edge cases are rare (but real).

Why then do some people seeming lose their collective minds over real but rare occurrences and attempt to hammer every triangle into either a round or a square hole?

I have a purely empirical observational view of the world at large, forced a priori prescriptiveness at odds with the world seems more than a little flat earthy.

[Vuska]

A less succinct way of phrasing it would be something like: which gametes are produced, were produced, or should have been produced.

There are messy edge cases. Not all people have 8 fingers and two thumbs, but we don't say digit count is on a spectrum because some people are born with more or less, or that some people have had digits amputated.

The vast, vast majority of people are not messy edge cases. And some of them find language like "pregnant people" or "people with protates" awkward and vaguely dehumanising as opposed to the more understandable and specific terms: "women" and "men".

[me-vs-cat]

Like you, I find those terms awkward, at best. I refuse to use them.

Yet, "what should have been produced" is no better. Everytime I hear it, from you and anyone else, it sounds like numbskulls all too pleased at themselves for what they believe is a clever definition, without realizing it's merely "because I said so".

Maybe I'm missing something, and one day I will hear it differently. Not many such things change for me after years. Maybe I'll win the lottery, too.

Since you mentioned fingers... I used to know a shop teacher who adamantly wouldn't count themselves among the 10-fingered, and would give you a safety lecture if you brought it up. Just like that lecture would ignore your joke about opening soda cans and proceed into a near-diatribe that, 30 years later, is still an effective reminder on machine safety, this exemplifies the crux of the gender terminology problem: you're focusing on the wrong thing.

Why are you so insistent on telling other people about their bodies, to the point of declaring to them what their body "should have produced"?

You appear as the middle-schooler that thought youself clever, and your close group of friends seemed to agree, but most everyone else is trying to ignore you. This only became a problem when that close group of friends started stealing lunch money, saying it "should have" been given to them.

[asacrowflies]

> A less succinct way of phrasing it would be something like: which gametes are produced, were produced, or should have been produced.

So how can we determine what "should" be from a scientific basis if all study of these outliers is policed and censored like this?

This seems to be missing the point that would and should are objective vs whatever YOU and yours decided... Almost universally decided by religious or cultural dogma ... And not biology or science

[me-vs-cat]

What do you expect for people born without the capability to produce gametes?

[account42]

Some people being born with additional/missing digits or limbs doesn't mean we should stop saying that humans have two arms and two legs with five fingers/toes each. At the end this is all performative - no one was ever actually harmed by women being called women.

And if anything those who insist of forcing this newspeak onto others by attacking anyone that doesn't go along also fit your definition of being "obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices".

[defrost]

> doesn't mean we should stop saying that humans have two arms and two legs with five fingers/toes each.

In the context of a loose generalisation that's pefectly fine.

However in the context of delivering public services to insist that all humans have two arms and two legs with five fingers/toes each with no exceptions is just wrong.

[southernplaces7]

And it's not bigoted to point out a completely absurd phrase.

[novemp]

Even if you don't want to acknowledge trans men existing... women are still people. Pregnant women are pregnant people.

[footy]

it's only dumb if you don't think women are people