[ricardobeat]

Diversity hiring has the specific goal of equalizing the mix a little bit, which requires hiring particular people. Same as education quotas which aim to bring in more students from unprivileged backgrounds, an attempt to correct historical discrimination over generations.

Your question demonstrates a lack of basic understanding of this, which could be obtained in half an hour of reading; from this perspective being kicked out of the room is not an unexpected response.

I do strongly agree with the principle that any discrimination is still discrimination, but reality is more nuanced than that.

[spondylosaurus]

Agreed, and I think a key thing to note here is that discrimination against marginalized groups/minorities has historically run much deeper than hiring strategies, and so hiring strategies themselves provide a pretty superficial picture of how close we are to "solving" inequality.

It's not always this dramatic, but sometimes you can chalk up the difference between two people's opportunities in life (at least partly) to the fact that Person A's great-great-grandparents had a thriving family business, and each generation was able to provide a safety net for the next, versus Person B's great-great-grandparents who weren't allowed to own property. There are other factors, obviously, but advantages or disadvantages can accrue over time like compound interest. If Person B gets a good job, that's beneficial for them, but it might be exponentially more beneficial for their own great-great-grandchildren down the line—it just takes a while to see that change!

[LoganDark]

So my impression is this: in a vacuum, if everyone hired only minorities, then non-minorities would be at a disadvantage, instead of minorities being at a disadvantage. Your argument seems to be that since there is still so much discrimination against minorities, some companies only hiring minorities serves to make the job market as a whole more fair for them, by "balancing out more" against those who only hire non-minorities. If those companies "only" treated everyone equally, then everyone else only hiring non-minorities would have even more of an impact, and the job market would be even more unfair for those minorities. Do I understand you correctly?

(Also: sorry for constantly using the term minorities/non-minorities. I don't have a better word to use here. I know talking about things this way could be seen as being part of the problem.)