[hellisothers]

Two things to consider when thinking on your points: On no initiatives to get straight men into HR, is there a great clamoring to get into the field of HR, or nursing (the other often cited example), do you perceive them as high prestige or high paying? You’re probably referencing subsidizing efforts to get into law, med school, finance, etc which are high paying and prestigious.

Regarding overt assistance given, this is to help balance the scales for deep structural support given to men. Which to your final point of difficulty of discussion, the structural biases are well documented but often derided when brought up in a discussion against complaints about the overt support provided to women.

We definitely need to address the issues about “the boys are not alright” but re-establishing old basis is not the way.

[Eddy_Viscosity2]

There are initiatives for women to get into things like firefighting and many trades that aren't super high paying jobs. They exist because these jobs are deemed to have 'too many men'. But the opposite is never a problem. An all female board of directors is lauded as being the best thing, while an all male one is considered exclusionary. All these messages are being received by young men.

[itsdrewmiller]

https://www.aamn.org/ from quick googling. I did find a lot of men in teaching too but it’s almost all targeted at BIPOC.

[Eddy_Viscosity2]

Would the AAMN be allowed to offer scholarships for men to enter nursing school where only men are eligible for the award in the same way such awards can be made women-only for male-dominated fields?

[autoexec]

> Regarding overt assistance given, this is to help balance the scales for deep structural support given to men.

I don't see much effort to balance scales in areas where women have had much greater assistance and support available for an extremely long time while men have had little if anything. Parental rights, domestic violence, criminal justice, and physical and mental health, etc.

In many of these areas the "old basis" was mainly favoring women and there's been little effort to change that situation.

[IshKebab]

> deep structural support given to men

Genuine question, obviously in the past men had an enormous advantage, but what is that deep structural support today (in the West)?