[taraharris]

NATO and the UN are both American institutions, and they ultimately serve American interests above all else.

No matter what the future holds for these particular organizations, we should all hope for better and more neutral ones that actually maintain fairness and peace. We need something that's truly independent of all three superpowers

[sirolimus]

NATO and UN aren't American institutions - they're global organizations with 32 and 193 member nations respectively. NATO has defended non-US territories like Estonia from Russian threats, while 75% of UN peacekeeping operations are in Africa where US strategic interests are minimal. If these were American tools, they wouldn't consistently allocate resources to regions with limited US priority.