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by djur 472 days ago
> Do any of the old USDS staff survive?

40 were laid off and 21 resigned (and Musk claimed that they would have been fired for being Democrats, regardless). That's approximately 60% of the total.

https://apnews.com/article/doge-elon-musk-federal-government...

As for "government agency", I was using your language:

> If a government agency has a culture [etc]... the agency becomes a target

Again, your claim here is that it's typical and predictable that new administrations conduct ideological purges on the civil service. So far, you haven't actually been able to name a single example of a Democratic administration doing that, and instead you're saying that maybe 18F was bad anyway, etc. Would you consider just admitting that your claim is false rather than resorting to this "by definition, strictly speaking, the premise of your question implies" ink cloud?

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> Again, your claim here is that it's typical and predictable that new administrations conduct ideological purges on the civil service.

No, I'm not denying this is reaching a level which hasn't been seen before.

But, perceptions of political impartiality of civil servants have been greatly eroded.

Imagine if the situation were reversed, if Democrats had a widespread perception that the federal bureaucracy had a pro-GOP/anti-Democrat bias – can you be so sure they wouldn't do similar things?

I don't have to imagine.

The ICE union endorsed Trump in 2016, 2020, and 2024 -- the only presidential endorsements it has ever made.

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/immigration-customs-e...

The FBI has traditionally leaned Republican (it has never had a Democratic director), as has the US military (especially the Air Force).

Biden did not purge ICE, nor did he replace Trump's FBI director, etc.