[keyle]

I've just reinstalled a PC with windows and coming from macOS and about 10 years of XCode, I certainly prefer the mac camp over the absolute smouldering hot garbage of a wasteland that the windows ecosystem is.

Just the BIOS settings nightmare I had to get through for it install Windows properly was beyond belief. I guess OEM installs have won. But building your own hardware like "back in the days", oh the sweet sweet old days, what a nightmare.

My BIOS even has AI in it (WTF).

Even Microsoft holds its own debloating list [1]! How bad is that?

I tried to clean windows right after install and that took much longer than setting a brand new mac. And the macOS doesn't cost $150, for ad-riddled cortana/AI nightmare feeding my clicks to random houses and shipping with minecraft and king.com games!

At some point, "both camps" have to agree to disagree but there are lot of rose tinted glasses everywhere.

[1] https://github.com/microsoft/windows-dev-box-setup-scripts/b...

[eviks]

> tried to clean windows right after install and that took much longer than setting a brand new mac

Because you can't debloat a Mac since bloat is part of a protected system partition, so time saved?

[keyle]

find me what you'd want to remove from the protected system partition, and then don't look at Windows, which has one too ;)

[eviks]

First, it wouldn't help you since you're the one with this one-sided comparison of bloat you can remove being preferable to bloat you can't.

Second, Windows doesn't have it in the same crypto-protected-risk-breaking-boot way, there are well documented ways on debloating Windows both before and after an install.