[andoando]

>Even with this, there are still limitations, but there's no need to throw the baby out with the bathwater -- the goal is to produce an actionable explanation that we can use to reduce suffering, and for many people this explanation does exactly that.

So did shamens, tarot readers, and psychics. The "actionable" part of all this is prescribing stimulants. Why can't we just focus on prescribing stimulants to those who would benefit from stimulants? Is the "ADHD" part of it really necessary?

[vector_spaces]

The actionable part includes stimulants, but also self-awareness and structure. Stimulants alone won't usually lead to the kinds of changes that improve quality of life. Virtually any clinician and expert on this topic agrees with this point

I don't understand your question about whether or not the "ADHD" part is necessary. Yes, we should have words for complex ideas.

The comparison to shamans and tarot readers comes off as dismissive and uninformed, and generally in poor taste. Ultimately you are questioning a diagnostic framework that you don't understand very well given your other comments. There are critiques to be made and even aspects of your position that I agree with but you really need to understand the framework you intend to tear down before tearing it down

[andoando]

My point is giving people any explanation for their problems - so long as its backed by authority helps them - it says nothing to the truthfulness of those explanations.

Anyway youre being really dismissive too instead of just responding to my points. If you think Im being dumb fine Im just not interested in an emotionally heated argument.

I apologize if I seem dismissive of people's mental health - not my intention Ive been dealing with them my whole life. Take care.