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I'd risk to say these people would like to see whole Europe thrown into meat grinder. And I hope Europe has enough sanity not to allow this.

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So far the biggest self-inflicted death toll has been Russian, and all they have to do is go home.

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So... any examples of that Quisling, Vichy, Chamberlain approach - roll over and plead for mercy while exposing your belly - that resulted in a permanent peace in Europe? I mean we want to avoid a meat grinder don't we, so given all that history you'll have plenty of proof that this time, this exact situation, will somehow be magically different.